From: blakes7-d-request@lysator.liu.se Subject: blakes7-d Digest V98 #166 X-Loop: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se X-Mailing-List: archive/volume98/166 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se Reply-To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain blakes7-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 166 Today's Topics: [B7L]MORE BASTARDS!! [B7L]terry Pratchett Re: [B7L] The tape saga continueth... Re: [B7L] Invasion Earth [B7L] Barcode hell [B7L]terry Pratchett Re: [B7L]terry Pratchett Re: [B7L] The Bastards! Re: [B7L] Criminals [B7L] Re: fan fiction Re:[B7L] Contemplating Avon [B7L] Criminals Re: [B7L] Criminals Re: [B7L]terry Pratchett [B7L] Lost in Space - BBC answer Re: [B7L] Fourth Season - why?? Re: [B7L] Re: Fourth Season-why? Re: [B7L] B7L re Avon Re: [B7L] Fourth Season [B7L] Oh ,so Envious ... [B7L] Cream of TV Re: [B7L] Re: fan fiction Re: [B7L] Barcode hell ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 17:41:21 +0100 From: "Julie Horner" To: Subject: [B7L]MORE BASTARDS!! Message-Id: <199806141639.SAA28218@samantha.lysator.liu.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cable and Wireless - I hate them, I hate them with a passion! This morning of all mornings when UK Gold were showing 'Blake' Cable and Wireless _lost_ several channels for a few hours - including UK Gold. I always video the B7 to watch in the evening in peace and quiet but today when I went in to check that the recording was working OK I discovered the awful truth. I don't have a recording of it in any other form so I am buying the videos as soon as they come out - however given the rate at which they are released it will now be months and months before I get to see Blake again. I rang Cable and Wireless to complain and was kept waiting in a queue for 30 minutes before a depressed sounding man called Doug came on the phone, listened to my outraged blusterings and then said someone would call me back. I have heard no more since. I fully intend to demand compensation - Ok nothing can really make up for the disappointment but I just want someone to feel punished Has anyone else been let down like this by C&W? Julie Horner ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 17:44:10 +0100 From: "Julie Horner" To: Subject: [B7L]terry Pratchett Message-Id: <199806141642.SAA28338@samantha.lysator.liu.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I expect most people will have heard about Terry's gong by now but I just encountered this on alt.fan.pratchett > > For those of us who hadn't caught the ceefax article, Paul > > Darrow announced the good news during the final bows at > > tonight's performance of G!G! in Reading, to tremendous > > applause. Last night of the tour IIRC, but what a wonderful > > note to end on! > > > > Were any of you there? Julie Horner ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 17:51:32 +0100 From: "Julie Horner" To: Subject: Re: [B7L] The tape saga continueth... Message-Id: <199806141649.SAA28600@samantha.lysator.liu.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ---------- > From: Una McCormack > > Well, this is where we are with the damn releases at the moment. > etc. Well at least you found the tapes. I have been on holiday for a fortnight and before I went the local WH Smith still had not got the tape so I asked for one to be put aside. At 10.30am Saturday I put down on British soil (tarmac) and by 1pm I was in there asking for my tape. "Sorry" they said "they are not in yet". Same story at Woollies. Until I read your mail I thought there must have been a general delay on the release - now I know it is just all video retailers in Macclesfield being totally useless. Sorry to sound so cross but, what with this disappointment plus Lost in Space (which I had set the video for) and then the crowning glory of C&W cock-up making me miss Blake (see previous mailing) I am just a bit fed-up. Nice hols though. Julie Horner ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 17:59:33 +0100 From: "Julie Horner" To: Subject: Re: [B7L] Invasion Earth Message-Id: <199806141657.SAA29123@samantha.lysator.liu.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Judith wrote: > > I caught an episode of 'Fireman Sam' this morning ... > I was more worried when Sam fell into a hole in the ground than > when the nDs attacked the military base. That must be the one where there is an earth tremor in Penny Morris's back garden - I have that on video. >and Ophelia said > > And why not? Fireman Sam is cool, > although I prefer Postman Pat. > Never! Postman Pat is BORING - nothing ever happens and Pat is a prat. But Sam IS cool and his theme tune has a really good beat. Julie Horner ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 20:57:19 +0100 GMT From: STEVE.ROGERSON@MCR1.poptel.org.uk To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Barcode hell Message-Id: <698210120MCR1@MCR1.poptel.org.uk> I'm having great difficulty finding a suitable copy of tape five in the new releases of the B7 videos. My quest is not helped by the local Woolworths and WH Smiths not stocking it. However, Virgin and HMV that do stock it have a problem. Let me explain. I'm going for the darker chocolate paper style wrappers. Apparently on these the barcode doesn't show up very well, so they stick a white barcode sticker over the original, and it looks ugly. Now on tapes one to four this was stuck on the outside plastic cover where it could be removed without too much trouble. But on tape five it is stuck on the inside paper cover. I asked the woman at HMV to remove it for me and she started to and then stopped saying it would, as I suspected, tear the paper. What I don't know is if these are stuck on by Fabulous Films, in which case they will all have this problem, or by the warehouses of the shops concerned. What have others found? Am I going to have any luck finding an unstickered copy? cheers Steve Rogerson Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent http://www.smof.com/redemption/ "The workers united will never be ignited" Guards! Guards! - Terry Pratchett ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 08:49:20 +1200 From: Nicola Collie To: B7-list Subject: [B7L]terry Pratchett Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >I expect most people will have heard about Terry's gong >by now but I just encountered this on alt.fan.pratchett Gong? What species of gong did he get? Do we call him Sir Pterry now? C'mon, you can't keep us in suspenders - what's the story? ;-) ttfn, Nicola --- Nicola Collie Dunedin, New Zealand nicola.collie@stonebow.otago.ac.nz It just occurred to me that, as the description of a highly sophisticated technological achievement "Avon's gadget works" seems to lack a certain style. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 23:06:19 +0100 From: "Jenni -Alison" To: Subject: Re: [B7L]terry Pratchett Message-Id: <199806142206.AAA09648@samantha.lysator.liu.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Julie Horner wrote: > I expect most people will have heard about Terry's gong > by now but I just encountered this on alt.fan.pratchett > > > > > For those of us who hadn't caught the ceefax article, Paul > > > Darrow announced the good news during the final bows at > > > tonight's performance of G!G! in Reading, to tremendous > > > applause. Last night of the tour IIRC, but what a wonderful > > > note to end on! > > > > > > > > Were any of you there? I was there! It was a fantastic last night, and Paul was wonderful. The applause was thunderous, with yells and shouts too. The cast were all very friendly at the stage door too! Jenni ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 23:29:31 +0100 From: "Dangermouse" To: "Anne Lane" , Subject: Re: [B7L] The Bastards! Message-Id: <199806142245.XAA14825@gnasher.sol.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I have just phoned the BBC on 0181 743 8000 to complain about the postponement > of the Blake's 7 Lost in Space episode in favour of yet more sport. Did they? Thank god for that - I thought I'd missed it! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 22:32:08 -0700 From: Pat Patera To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Criminals Message-ID: <35820ED8.5420@geocities.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ophelia wrote: > Seriously, it was a bad writing error > in Blakes 7. I find it hardly likely that, > drugged or not, a group of prisoners > would accept a convicted child-molester > as a leader. Perhaps this is why Gan seems to be viewed as the best leader available. Remember how reluctant most of the crims on Cygnus Alpha were to take advantage of Blake's offer of escape? Sure, there was the drug they thought they needed, but perhaps it was something else, as well? > After all, it was precisely > because such a charge would completely > discredit him that it was picked. And > prosopners prosopners? Ophelia, what drugs are you on? and where can I get some? > are notorious for setting up > their own violence-based justice order to > compensate for their powerlessness to > affect the outside world. Yet, the crims we see (except for Arco, who I suspect kills women and wears their skins while he shags men) are non-violent. Political prisoners, smugglers, thieves, embezzlers, etc. > I don't beleive > no one on the London knew what Blake was > convicted of, either - Blake's enemies would > make sure the word went around. I expect a number of those on board had been "framed." They in particular would believe Blake had also been framed. Pat P ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 18:36:01 PDT From: "Todd Girdler" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Re: fan fiction Message-ID: <19980615013601.1589.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Where can I get me some of this fan fiction -Todd- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 22:39:51 EDT From: penny_kjelgaard@juno.com To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se, rstroud@halcyon.com, Wildstar@tf-ring.com, SandSteinr@aol.com, CHERYL_MARKS@HP-LakeStevens-om2.om.hp.com Subject: Re:[B7L] Contemplating Avon Message-ID: <19980614.193647.17399.1.Penny_Kjelgaard@juno.com> As some of you may recall, my daughter, Missy Rose (age 6) went trick-or-treating as Avon last Halloween. Their kindergarten teacher prepared a video show of still shots she had taken throughout the year, and of course, Missy as Avon appeared in the Halloween party shots. The little girl sitting next to me leaned over and said, "What on EARTH is Avon?" Ah, the innocence of youth... Peace, Penny _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 23:40:11, -0500 From: BCJC37A@prodigy.com ( ROSANNE POSTELNEK) To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Criminals Message-Id: <199806150340.XAA15908@mime4.prodigy.com> Someone asked about fanfic dealing with the accusation of child molesting. Log of the Hellhound has some excellent parts dealing with several of the children who were molested, as adults. They wander in and out of it and since Hellhoun is better read in order, I won't list which books have the characters. Rosie ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 10:50:46 +0100 (BST) From: mjsmith@tcd.ie (Murray) To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Criminals Message-Id: <199806150950.KAA02781@dux1.tcd.ie> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Pat Patera made a few interesting comments about the criminals on the London: >Yet, the crims we see (except for Arco, who I suspect kills women and >wears their skins while he shags men) are non-violent. Political >prisoners, smugglers, thieves, embezzlers, etc. The problem with this is that these are, to quote Villa, the 'nice people' aboard. I'm sure that there are a goodly number or rapists, child abusers, and serial killers amongst them. She also said that >I expect a number of those on board had been "framed." They in >particular would believe Blake had also been framed. The only person we saw replying to Blake's assertions of innocence was Villa, who gave the cynical reply that they were all victims of a miscarriage of justice. As far as the B7 crew is concerned, we must accept, in the face of any assertions to the contrary, that they were guilty as charged. My own belief is that the Federation justice system was a fair one, at least as far as ordinary crimes were concerned. This way, the administration could trumpet that it was a fair one, and that only the guilty were punished. Political offenders like Blake, however, were another matter. As his trial showed, they were quite prepared to fabricate the evidence to get the result they wanted. It was the fact that the system appeared to work fairly (because it did, a lot of the time, as long as there was no politics involved) which explains the shock of Blake's lawyer when he finds out that his client _was_ framed. Murray Smith ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 12:48:04 +0100 From: "fifitrix" To: Subject: Re: [B7L]terry Pratchett Message-ID: <00d801bd9855$a4cbbe60$fa4795c1@scarlett> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Original Message----- From: Julie Horner To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Date: 14 June 1998 17:54 Subject: [B7L]terry Pratchett > > >I expect most people will have heard about Terry's gong >by now but I just encountered this on alt.fan.pratchett > > >> > For those of us who hadn't caught the ceefax article, Paul >> > Darrow announced the good news during the final bows at >> > tonight's performance of G!G! in Reading, to tremendous >> > applause. Last night of the tour IIRC, but what a wonderful >> > note to end on! >> > >> > > >Were any of you there? > > >Julie Horner Yes and Paul Darrow kissed me afterwards .....just thought I'd mention that! fifitrix ******************************************************************* Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition! ******************************************************************* fifitrix@dial.pipex.com> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 14:05:21 +0200 From: nicoline.van.den.berg@tip.nl To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Cc: space.city@world.std.com Subject: [B7L] Lost in Space - BBC answer Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980615140521.007e5bd0@pop1.tip.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" This is the answer I received from the BBC regarding Lost in Space. Really helpful. *sob* >>I have registered your disappointment with the cancellation of the above programme. I am afraid I am unable to give you a broadcast date at present, so may I suggest you keep an eye on programme announcements for the most up-to-date information. Regards Viewer & Listener Correspondence<< Nicoline ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 22:27:08 +0930 From: "Ophelia" To: "Blake's 7 list" Subject: Re: [B7L] Fourth Season - why?? Message-ID: <01bd985d$1ab211e0$LocalHost@waltersmith> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Pat P wrote: >> (Can't you just see Soolin as a fluffy Southern Belle on a rich Gauda >> Prime plantation - and her subsequent change to hardened killer?) Oh, please don't! I couldn't bear it if Soolin was linked in my mind with Scarlett. Although I have a deep suspicion it's too late now... >> hey! isn't that the plotline of Buffy the Vampire Slayer? and Kathryn wrote: >I can see it now... > >"In every generation, there is a Chosen One. She alone will stand >against the vampires, the demons, and the forces of darkness. She is >the Slayer." Didn't someone just point out that was Servalan? > -- Watcher Handbook > >"Um, Soolin, why is this drawer full of sharp, pointed bits of wood?" > >"None of your business." > >... > >"I knew Dorian wasn't your run-of-the-mill vampire, but I didn't find >out about the Basement until he brought you people. Don't worry, if >Avon hadn't killed the Thing, I would have done it." LOL. But I rather fancy Soolin as a vampire herself - Soolin as Carmilla Karnstein, now that's an image to get my juices flowing. Soolin has her cold beauty, lethargic power and mystery - she'd be perfect. 'Twere I the virginal little Laura, I would not hesitate for a moment - those interfering male bastards would find the stake in their *own* hearts before I'd acqueisse to their self-righteous destruction of the goddess. But 'twere Soolin Carmilla, they would never have caught her sleeping in her coffin in the first place. The quickest canines in Eastern Europe... Oh, Carmilla! What sweet delusion, what dark delirium, what marvellous sickness consumed my very vitals! Even now my lassitude lingers and, glancing up quickly, I seem to hear her soft footfall outside my door... (Or words to that effect.) - XXX Lindley Ophelia - ophelia@picknowl.com.au "The girl has beauty, virtue, wit, Grace, humour, wisdom, charity and pluck." LONDON CALLING - a list to discuss Britcoms and knockwurst. http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/2511/knockwurst.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 21:47:09 +0930 From: "Ophelia" To: "B7 mailing list" Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Fourth Season-why? Message-ID: <01bd9857$852f7ae0$LocalHost@waltersmith> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rob wrote: >Another classic example of that was Blake's reaction in "Pressure >Point" when he realised he hadn't found "Control" after all. Very >hard-hitting. Um. Or depending on your point of view, very very funny. Sorry. But the sight of Blake running into an empty room like a kid who finds his lolly shop has turned into a school is guaranteed to make me giggle. It's a bit of unfortunate histrionics in an otherwise excellent episode. - XXX Lindley Ophelia - ophelia@picknowl.com.au "The girl has beauty, virtue, wit, Grace, humour, wisdom, charity and pluck." LONDON CALLING - a list to discuss Britcoms and knockwurst. http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/2511/knockwurst.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 22:08:08 +0930 From: "Ophelia" To: Subject: Re: [B7L] B7L re Avon Message-ID: <01bd985a$73833860$LocalHost@waltersmith> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Pat P: >Julia Jones wrote: >> Power? What do you mean Power? That's a *wonderful* episode for those of >> us who enjoy seeing Avon knocked unconscious, dragged around, slung over >> some hulking great brute's shoulder... >surely this bit is for the *other* list? Now, not all of us are on SC. Don't spoil our fun. After all, the FAQ for this list `specially says we can discuss this kind of thing if we want (and I do want...) Btw, Pat, after your anlaysis of "Power" I decided I *should* give it another shot... Pat Fenech wrote: >Ah, a chance to despise the leather & studs, sorry Judith I cannot abide >the leather and studs Aaargh! She's a pod person! Get her! (Not like leather and studs. What does she prefer, trackies? ) > - my only cavil with 'Terminal' is the precursing of >what was to become the 'distinctive' clothing style of the fourth season. I >don't think they suit him at all - to me they simply add to the oddness of >his less constrained persona - he was not an ostentatious dresser before - >rather the opposite - I know he wore leather - but other than the revolting >red thing it was not terribly showy - ok, I hear the guffaws! I know, I >know, but in terms of being ostentatious - oh well... I give up you know >what I mean - I hope - to me it seems that the leather & studs have a >large element of protectiveness about them somehow - when he takes the >jacket off he is soooo thin, the jacket intended to mislead? It engages my >sympathy, but does nothing for me aesthetically. You could think of it in this way - before, he was in Blake's shadow, either literally - being the dark influence and nea-sayer - and then figuratively, always under suspicion of just being a temporary fill-in 'till the great leader got back. Once Blake's return proved to be an illusion, he was free to blossom into all that delicious mildly s-m paraphenalia and show his true potential as a top... Of course, he blossomed one episode too early, but maybe he was unconsioculy psychic. Or something. > I prefer the 'look' of >'Aftermath' - the draped sleeves are very becoming well, the whole shirt >- and outfit - he changes into when on Sarran is entirely becoming It's lovely, yes... am >also fond of the silver shirt - though I know this is not everyone's favourite. No! Not the middle-aged sun-reflective jogging suit! > Personally, preferences seem to tend towards the simpler >costumes, which make the most of his elegance. The man does have a way with him... - XXX Lindley Ophelia - ophelia@picknowl.com.au "The girl has beauty, virtue, wit, Grace, humour, wisdom, charity and pluck." LONDON CALLING - a list to discuss Britcoms and knockwurst. http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/2511/knockwurst.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 21:55:51 +0930 From: "Ophelia" To: Subject: Re: [B7L] Fourth Season Message-ID: <01bd9858$bc4319a0$LocalHost@waltersmith> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Pat P wrote of Vila and Orbit: >And in this ep, that feminine side pops >up quickly and effortlessly. That's so. And, once again, Vila reacts so very much more femininely than the wimmin would! Soolin or Jenna would find the role of amusing consort, as you so beautifully put it, degrading, Egrorian would be lucky not to find a gun in his maw. As for Dayna and Cally, the one was so naive and the other so asexual, I'm not sure they'd even realise what the old bugger was hinting at... - XXX Lindley Ophelia - ophelia@picknowl.com.au "The girl has beauty, virtue, wit, Grace, humour, wisdom, charity and pluck." LONDON CALLING - a list to discuss Britcoms and knockwurst. http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/2511/knockwurst.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 08:34:55 EST From: "Letitia A. Casebourn" To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Oh ,so Envious ... Message-ID: > Incidentally, I notice that in July UK Gold are starting to show Blake's 7 on > both Saturday and Sunday mornings. > > Anne Lane sob ... haven't seen any rebroadcasts of B7 around here for *at least* 10-12 years! Oh, how I envy you folks! tisha@purdue.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 00:20:01 +0930 From: "Ophelia" To: "B7 list" Subject: [B7L] Cream of TV Message-ID: <01bd986c$dfc59600$LocalHost@waltersmith> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Apologies if this has been posted before while I was not reading, but here's the Cream of TV listing for B7 (http://tv.cream.org): <> OK, so the special effects descriptions are cute, but they mispelled two goddesses and failed to mention an acolyte - even though she's named in a captioned piccie! - XXX Lindley Ophelia - ophelia@picknowl.com.au "The girl has beauty, virtue, wit, Grace, humour, wisdom, charity and pluck." LONDON CALLING - a list to discuss Britcoms and knockwurst. http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/2511/knockwurst.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 08:03:10 +0100 From: Julia Jones To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: fan fiction Message-ID: <0chalLAucMh1Ewig@jajones.demon.co.uk> In message <19980615013601.1589.qmail@hotmail.com>, Todd Girdler writes >Where can I get me some of this fan fiction > Take a look at Judith Proctor's website, http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 which has a huge database of zines, prices and publishers' addresses, plus a links page with the web addresses of several ezines and mailing lists. -- Julia Jones "Don't philosophise with me, you electronic moron!" The Turing test - as interpreted by Kerr Avon. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 08:10:55 +0100 (BST) From: Judith Proctor To: Lysator List Subject: Re: [B7L] Barcode hell Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Sun 14 Jun, STEVE.ROGERSON@MCR1.poptel.org.uk wrote: > I'm going for the darker chocolate paper style wrappers. > Apparently on these the barcode doesn't show up very well, so > they stick a white barcode sticker over the original, and it looks > ugly. Now on tapes one to four this was stuck on the outside > plastic cover where it could be removed without too much > trouble. But on tape five it is stuck on the inside paper cover. I > asked the woman at HMV to remove it for me and she started > to and then stopped saying it would, as I suspected, tear the > paper. What I don't know is if these are stuck on by Fabulous > Films, in which case they will all have this problem, or by the > warehouses of the shops concerned. What have others found? > Am I going to have any luck finding an unstickered copy? Can you find a suitable solvent to remove the label without damaging the paper? Difficult to rest non-destructively though... Judith -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent http://www.smof.com/redemption/ -------------------------------- End of blakes7-d Digest V98 Issue #166 **************************************