From: blakes7-d-request@lysator.liu.se Subject: blakes7-d Digest V98 #8 X-Loop: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se X-Mailing-List: archive/volume98/8 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se Reply-To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain blakes7-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 8 Today's Topics: [B7L] Seattle Regional Blake-a-thon [B7L] Re: Newcomer alert Re: [B7L] Sex-- slash mode Re: [B7L] Search Engines Re: [B7L] Sex-- slash mode Re: [B7L] Sex-- slash mode [B7L] Harvest, F to M ratio, etc. [B7L] No Josette or Glynis? [B7L] What Pushed Avon over the edge? [B7L] Travis's Revenge! [B7L] re[B7]: No Josette or Glynis Re:[B7L] Avon's pet Re:[B7L]Children of Auron [B7L] Jackie's flick [B7L] PAUL DARROW ON BBC ONLINE [B7L] AT&T to buy Teleport... Re: [B7L] PAUL DARROW ON BBC ONLINE Re: [B7L] re[B7]: No Josette or Glynis Re:[B7L]Children of Auron Re: Re:[B7L]Children of Auron Re: [B7L] AT&T to buy Teleport... [B7L] Intro [B7L] AT&T -- Teleport Re: [B7L] AT&T to buy Teleport... Re: [B7L] Re: Dorian Crew ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 21:38:46 EST From: penny_kjelgaard@juno.com To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Seattle Regional Blake-a-thon Message-ID: <19980108.183142.11031.1.Penny_Kjelgaard@juno.com> Plans are now finalized for the next Blake Bash, to be held on Saturday, January 17. Plans include: Trivia Food (lasagna, salad, cheese cake...) And watching the episode "Blake" as it airs on KBTC Tacoma at 9 pm. Anyone interested should email me. Now its time to sing...the tune of "Loch Loman" I'll bring the TV and you bring the Kleenex And we'll watch "Blake" in the even'n. For Avon and dear Blake will never meet again. But we'll won't stand alone in our grievin'. Confirmed! Penny ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 21:43:13 -0500 From: Harriet Monkhouse To: "Blake's 7 (Lysator)" Subject: [B7L] Re: Newcomer alert Message-ID: <199801082143_MC2-2E97-ECEF@compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Matt Cherry introduced himself and said: >I still think Sally Harrison (Lauren from Aftermath) >is gorgeous and looks great in that silver getup >(too bad she had to be killed so quickly:)! A Lauren fan! A welcome development, I don't think I've seen one of those before. Pity she couldn't act, but yes, nice lass. Harriet ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 01:52:48 -0000 From: "Tom Forsyth" To: "Blake's 7 list" Subject: Re: [B7L] Sex-- slash mode Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kathryn Anderson said: > On Mon, Jan 05, 1998 at 05:58:00AM +0000, s.thompson8@genie.geis.com wrote: > > Actually, Iain, I find your feelings about the inappropriateness of > > slashing B7 (or at least Blake and Avon) perfectly understandable, > > because I feel that way myself about another, different fandom. I > > won't name it because I'm hoping against hope that the slash fans > > won't find it! The original product depicts an extremely intense > > friendship between two men that is, however, very clearly not > > sexual in nature. For me, adding sex would spoil the quality of > > that relationship as it is. > > Now you've made me curious! Obviously it can't be "The Sentinal" because > the slash fans have already been there... My money was on Due South (and what an excellent show it is too). Except I know that hordes of slashers were drawn to it five minutes after transmission of the first ep. And why not - it's K/S done properly, and with a dog thrown in for the truly kinky! Tom Forsyth ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 01:03:46 -0000 From: "Tom Forsyth" To: "B7 Lysator" Subject: Re: [B7L] Search Engines Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I saw your listing on the internet. > Get your web site(s) submitted to over 250 of the worlds best > search engines for only $39.95! (Yahoo, Lycos, AOL, Excite, > Hotbot, Linkstar, Webcrawler, and hundreds others). SPAMMMER SCUM! Besides, all those places already know about Judith's page (I know because I keep forgetting its address), and what more could a B7 fan want? Tom Forsyth. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 21:28:10 -0800 From: Tramila Farris To: "Blake's 7 list" Subject: Re: [B7L] Sex-- slash mode Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19980108212810.006ac170@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> > Actually, Iain, I find your feelings about the inappropriateness of >> > slashing B7 (or at least Blake and Avon) perfectly understandable, >> > because I feel that way myself about another, different fandom. I >> > won't name it because I'm hoping against hope that the slash fans >> > won't find it! The original product depicts an extremely intense >> > friendship between two men that is, however, very clearly not >> > sexual in nature. For me, adding sex would spoil the quality of >> > that relationship as it is. Avon/Blake is OK but what is really great is Avon/Vila slash. >> Now you've made me curious! Obviously it can't be "The Sentinal" because >> the slash fans have already been there... oh YES. Obvious from the first moment of the Pilot show. >My money was on Due South (and what an excellent show it is too). Except >I know that hordes of slashers were drawn to it five minutes after >transmission of the first ep. And why not - it's K/S done properly, and >with a dog thrown in for the truly kinky! Tom, you are so funny. Tramila ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 21:32:41 -0800 From: Tramila Farris To: "Blake's 7 list" Subject: Re: [B7L] Sex-- slash mode Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19980108213241.00effe28@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> > Actually, Iain, I find your feelings about the inappropriateness of >> > slashing B7 (or at least Blake and Avon) perfectly understandable, >> > because I feel that way myself about another, different fandom. I >> > won't name it because I'm hoping against hope that the slash fans >> > won't find it! The original product depicts an extremely intense >> > friendship between two men that is, however, very clearly not >> > sexual in nature. For me, adding sex would spoil the quality of >> > that relationship as it is. Avon/Blake is OK but what is really great is Avon/Vila slash. >> Now you've made me curious! Obviously it can't be "The Sentinal" because >> the slash fans have already been there... oh YES. Obvious from the first moment of the Pilot show. >My money was on Due South (and what an excellent show it is too). Except >I know that hordes of slashers were drawn to it five minutes after >transmission of the first ep. And why not - it's K/S done properly, and >with a dog thrown in for the truly kinky! Tom, you are so funny. Tramila ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jan 98 06:10:00 GMT From: s.thompson8@genie.geis.com To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Harvest, F to M ratio, etc. Message-Id: <199801090634.GAA04095@rock103.genie.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Tom Forsyth said of "Harvest of Kairos:" >So the use of lunar module to carry 5 people off a planet with at least >0.9G (as opposed to the 2 it was designed to carry, off an airless planet >with 0.2G, and then only to reach a low orbit) didn't strike you as having >a high hide-behind-the-couch-not-because-its-scary-but-from-sheer- >embarrassment quotient then? Or the utter rubbish about the semi-sentient >rock? And exactly why didn't the people on the Liberator just look at the >Lunar Lander on the screen and say "Oh - it's a Lunar Lander, circa 1969. >Sod the historical interest, blat it!" My theory about the lunar lander is that it was not the real thing at all but a historical recreationist's toy, a modern vehicle made to look like an old one, rather like the buses disguised as 19th-C. trolley cars that one sometimes sees used as tourist transport. As to how such a thing wound up abandoned on Kairos, well, perhaps there was a plan to develop the place as a resort planet back before they found out about the bugs and the Kairopan. The lengths some fans will go to to explain away stupid glitches! :) And Jarvik did, as I recall, look at the thing on the screen and pooh-pooh it; but he was overruled by Servalan, who believed the warnings coming from the computers whose sensors had been bamboozled by the Sopron. Hmm-- could we postulate that Zen suspected what was really going on but wanted its previous crew back and so passed on the false readings to Servalan without comment? Matt Cherry said: >Good evening everyone! Hi, Matt. Welcome aboard. Are you any relation to David the artist and C. J. the SF writer? Penny said: >Dorian and Carnell on the same ship??? > >///// Slash Alert! ///// It's a pretty thought, and I don't believe it's ever been done. Do blonds have more fun? Or is there some unwritten rule against it, like the notorious Curl Rule that supposedly rules out Blake/Tarrant (not that that has stopped a few people)? Julia Jones said: >While there's been an underlying assumption that slash is written by >women (which the majority is, so far as I can tell), I don't think >anybody has yet suggested that men shouldn't write it. (And I should >hope not - I've enjoyed most of the male written stuff I've seen, even >that which does not appeal to me sexually). Carol "Hondo" Mason said: >I have not entered into this debate at all. But without over analysing the >issue I would have thought that the quality of the story and the way the >characters are depicted would rest more with the authors talent or flair >for writing , rather than with what gender the author happens to be. >I have read some very good slash ( m/m ) fan fiction and I was totally >blown away to find that it had been written by a male ( a straight male ) Just out of curiousity, I did a quick, rough check of the author lists I'm keeping for fan stories published in paper zines. For gen stories, I have about 550 different authors' names of which about 60 are clearly male-- slightly over ten percent, with perhaps a few more among the ambiguous names and initials. For erotica, both het adult and slash, I have around 300 mostly pseudonymous authors of whom there are exactly four I can identify as male-- slightly over one percent. There may be a few more male writers of erotica under pseuds I don't know about, and I know that there are more male writers who have published electronically but not on paper and so aren't counted here. Still, it seems pretty clear that so far male writers are a small minority in B7 gen fiction and a miniscule one in erotica. This does not, of course, imply anything one way or another about the quality of their work or the ways in which it may or may not differ from the work of female writers. Sarah Thompson ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 22:59:00 PST From: "Matt Cherry" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] No Josette or Glynis? Message-Id: <199801090659.WAA20497@f140.hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain I was wondering why neither Josette Simon or Glynis Brber lent their voice talents to the recent Blake's 7 audio play(the name escapes me at the moment). Also is the Angela Bruce who does Dayna's voice in the play the same Angela Bruce who played Deb Lister in the "Parallel Universe" episode of Red Dwarf and Brigadier Bambera in the "Battlefield" episode of Doctor Who? Thanks, Matt ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 23:08:18 PST From: "Matt Cherry" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] What Pushed Avon over the edge? Message-ID: <19980109070819.21498.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain I agree with the comments of many of you that by the time of Avon's tragic showdown with Blake in the final episode he had become obsessively parnoid and distrustful.I was wondering what all of you throught what proved to be the main factor in making him this way. I've narrowed it down to three reasonsin order of importance in my opinion. A: Anna Grant's betrayal of him. B: The disappointment he felt after learning that his "reunion" with Blake in "Terminal" was merely a trap by Servalan. C: Just a general bitterness and depression over a realization that despite all his claims of "I don't need you Blake.....one day the others will not follow you....i can be a better leader...blah blah blah in virtually every episode of seasons 1 and 2, that Blake in fact WAS the better leader, and enjoyed a great deal more success over the Federation when he was at the helm of the rebellion than Avon ever did. Just ant to get all of your thoughts on it. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 23:31:46 PST From: "Matt Cherry" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Travis's Revenge! Message-ID: <19980109073146.2458.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Just finished rewatching season 2 and i can't help but think that Blake's attempt to prove the 7 were still a force to be reckoned with following the death of Gan by opening fire on Space Command HQ was the WORST thing Blake could have done, under the circumstances. However, it's also one of the most important actions in the series, because it affects the storyline up to the end. While it caused considerable damage to HQ and presumably left Starkiller Samon, Rontane, Bercol. and other important Federation big wigs to the same death poor Nova suffred way back in "Space Fall", Travis was freed, setting off a chain of direct and indirect events in the process. Travis' unexplained and at times confusing presence severely hampers the search for Star One in Voice From The Past(Eeeeeeez eeeeet Blaaaaaake), Gambit, and The Keeper, making it a lot harder to take care of the business of blowing up Central Control than it could have been. He then sells out all of human kind to the Andromedans and theie space fleet of kitchenware! This in turn leads to the Intergalactic War and the destruction of Star One at a time Blake admitted it was needed. While the war destoys 80 percent of the Federation's fleet and leaves it at its weakest, it also results in the crew of the Liberator being scattered throughout the universe, losing Blake and Jenna for good and forcing the Crew Mach 2 to fumble around for 2 seasons under the unstable leadership of Avon (IMHO. All this so Blake can flex his muscles! The resulting freedom of Travis is a huge blunder, and in the end, it appears good ole eyepatch really does win out. The Federation he had worked so hard and ruthlessly for that turned his back on him was dealt a serious blow and his most hated foe ended up dying at the hands of a man he had "trusted from the very beginning". There's a chance that the Liberator/Scorpio crew at it's peak in my opinion(From Trial to Star One) could have remained intact and found some way of overrunning the Federation without needing a costly alien invasion to do it from them. All this from a small neutron blaster strike at Space Command HQ, Thanks, Matt ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 09:48:31 -0800 From: Jackie To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] re[B7]: No Josette or Glynis Message-ID: <34B662EF.5900@termlow.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Matt Cherry wrote: > > I was wondering why neither Josette Simon or Glynis Brber lent their > voice talents to the recent Blake's 7 audio play(the name escapes me at > the moment). They were both touring in plays, I believe. >Also is the Angela Bruce who does Dayna's voice in the play > the same Angela Bruce who played Deb Lister in the "Parallel Universe" > episode of Red Dwarf and Brigadier Bambera in the "Battlefield" episode > of Doctor Who? > I think so. Does anyone else think it strange that the casting department of a RADIO play brought in a Blonde actress to play Soolin, and a Black actress to play Dayna? or was it purely coincidental? or might it be that the Gods of the BBC are thinking of putting on a TV programme of B7, and wanted people who were not too dissimilar in looks to the originals? Nah! Bye for now Jackie > Thanks, > > Matt > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 13:05:28 -0800 From: "J. I. Horner" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re:[B7L] Avon's pet Message-ID: <34B69118.3C83@dial.pipex.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 8 Jan Jackie wrote : Of course that set me wondering what sort of pet Avon would choose. The initial reaction was a big, sleek and elegant black cat. However, then I heard this (semi-)interesting thing on Radio 4 about Gilbert White (Natural History of Selborne). Apparently he had a large tortoise called Timothy. The narrator of the programme was expounding his theory that people who keep tortoises will tend to be the sort who shut out the rest of the world - or keep it at a distance - as if they themselves were wearing a large protective shell. I can easily see Avon with a tortoise. Its a practical pet for a space ship as it does not make much mess and needs little exercise. Also I would have thought the air of quiet reflective wisdom would appeal to Avon. Anyway that's my theory - anyone else with pet ideas? Julie Horner ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 13:16:35 -0800 From: "J. I. Horner" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re:[B7L]Children of Auron Message-ID: <34B693B3.5328@dial.pipex.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have just watched 'Children of Auron' again and that last scene, the nursery of 5000 comment, well it makes you realise that it wouldn't work would it? The planet they were going to was uninhabited so the raising of those infants was down to just two people initially. No way could they raise 5000 all at one go. My sister has triplets and the fall out from that litter would turn your hair white so 5000 - really! Of course they would have to defrost them in batches, but they would need to be very small batches - no more than six or seven a year is my guess. And of course second and subsequent years you would be able to 'deliver' even fewer as you would still have all the one-year olds to deal with. By the time the first lot were old enough to help out their would still only be a very small number. I expect you could do a mathematical simulation to work out how long it would take to bring them all up but I expect the first generation would have started to die off before they were all born. And surely when they started to reach adulthood they would prefer to replenish the Auron stock by more natural means? Of course, maybe the Aurons are really clever and have found a way of gestating feotuss (what is the plural of feotus?) until they are about five so they come out fully toilet trained and reciting the alphabet but even so... Julie Horner ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 03:33:45 +1100 From: Fran Myers To: B7 Subject: [B7L] Jackie's flick Message-ID: <34B65169.7833@ozemail.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jackie asked for the title of the film I refered to - "Sky Wide and Crooked" was the English title. It's not listed under that name in the video reference book. Rhonda was upset at the idea of a plump JP - just teenage plumpness in the face, before those wonderful bones started to show. Not quite the svelte pussycat she became. Fran ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 16:31:59 -0000 From: "Andrew Sewell" To: Subject: [B7L] PAUL DARROW ON BBC ONLINE Message-ID: <01bd1d1c$1b79d160$ea20a8c0@Beeb224.tvc.bbc.co.uk> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003A_01BD1D1C.1B79D160" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01BD1D1C.1B79D160 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable AVON CALLING! CHAT ONLINE WITH PAUL DARROW Paul Darrow's celebrated performance as Avon has spawned a worldwide fan = base, and earned him a place in television folklore. Beeb@ the BBC = (http://www.oi.beeb.com) will be chatting live to Paul Darrow on Friday = 16th January between 1-2pm. This is an interactive event that offers you = the chance to submit questions which will be answered by Paul live on = the internet! So if you want to know the inside story about how he = recreated his role, or hear an exclusive about the show's future, don't = delay and post your questions right here = (http://www.oi.beeb.com/scifi-fantasy). Or better still join us LIVE on = the day. ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01BD1D1C.1B79D160 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

AVON CALLING! CHAT ONLINE WITH PAUL DARROW

Paul Darrow's celebrated performance as Avon = has spawned=20 a worldwide fan base, and earned him a place in television folklore. = Beeb@ the=20 BBC (http://www.oi.beeb.com) = will be chatting live to Paul Darrow on Friday = 16th=20 January between 1-2pm. This is an interactive event that offers you the = chance=20 to submit questions which will be answered by Paul live on the internet! = So if=20 you want to know the inside story about how he recreated his role, or = hear an=20 exclusive about the show's future, don't delay and post your questions = right=20 here (http://www.oi.beeb.com/scif= i-fantasy).=20 Or better still join us LIVE on the=20 day.

------=_NextPart_000_003A_01BD1D1C.1B79D160-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 14:01:06 -0500 (EST) From: adering@ziplink.net (Alex Dering) To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] AT&T to buy Teleport... Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I was sitting at the dining room table reading the NY Times and the headline: AT&T to buy Teleport for $11.4 Billion (or some such figure) caught my eye. The first thing I thought was, of course, Oh Wow! They've finally got matter transportation. And AT&T is going to own it. Blake's 7, and insidious thing in my life. ---------------------------------------- Life is short, art long, opportunity fleeting, experience treacherous, and judgement difficult. -- Hippocrates -- ---------------------------------------- website: http://www.ziplink.net/~adering ---------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 21:11:55 +0100 (MET) From: gwr@easynet.co.uk (Gareth Randall) To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] PAUL DARROW ON BBC ONLINE Message-Id: <199801092011.VAA07156@samantha.lysator.liu.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >...or hear an exclusive about the show's future... Let me guess - if this play goes down well, there *might* possibly be more. Radio plays, that is. Cynical or what? =;-) Gareth http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~gwr ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 21:24:03 +0100 (MET) From: gwr@easynet.co.uk (Gareth Randall) To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] re[B7]: No Josette or Glynis Message-Id: <199801092024.VAA08279@samantha.lysator.liu.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> I was wondering why neither Josette Simon or Glynis Brber lent their >> voice talents to the recent Blake's 7 audio play(the name escapes me at >> the moment). >They were both touring in plays, I believe. I may be remembering incorrectly here, but aren't Josette and Glynis among that coterie of performers from cult TV shows who prefer to disassociate themselves from said programme(s)? I have to say that I wasn't surprised when I learned that they weren't going to be involved. >>Also is the Angela Bruce who does Dayna's voice in the play >> the same Angela Bruce who played Deb Lister in the "Parallel Universe" >> episode of Red Dwarf and Brigadier Bambera in the "Battlefield" episode >> of Doctor Who? Yes. It couldn't be anyone else; Equity rules forbid two different actors sharing the same name. >Does anyone else think it strange that the casting department of a RADIO >play brought in a Blonde actress to play Soolin, and a Black actress to >play Dayna? The Soolin thing was probably just coincidental, but the Dayna situation wouldn't have been. BBC radio has a long-standing policy of hiring people from the ethnic group appropriate to the role. Gareth http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~gwr ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 15:46:56 -0500 From: Cecilia To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re:[B7L]Children of Auron Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980109154656.007a0a00@raex.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 01:16 PM 1/9/98 -0800, J. I. Horner wrote: > >And surely when they started to reach adulthood they would prefer to >replenish the Auron stock by more natural means? > >Of course, maybe the Aurons are really clever and have found a way of >gestating feotuss (what is the plural of feotus?) until they are about >five so they come out fully toilet trained and reciting the alphabet but >even so... > Actually, they probably would wish to replenish the stock "naturally", but the frozen embryos would still provide more genetic diversity. It has been YEARS since my last biology class - I can't seem to remember the threshold number needed to prevent in-breeding in humans? Any of you younger (and therefore closer to your school days) persons remember? Lady C., the Anceunt One feeling entirely TOO chatty today ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 22:16:48 -0000 From: Alison Page To: Lysator Subject: Re: Re:[B7L]Children of Auron Message-ID: <884384771.2029348.0@alisonpage.demon.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lady C said > Actually, they probably would wish to replenish the stock "naturally", but > the frozen embryos would still provide more genetic diversity. It has been > YEARS since my last biology class - I can't seem to remember the threshold > number needed to prevent in-breeding in humans? Any of you younger (and > therefore closer to your school days) persons remember? well I'm not young, but I seem to recall someone telling me the threshold was about 200 - which sounds kinda reasonable. I know they have trouble with captive breeding programs when the population of captive animals gets too low. But to be 'safe' and after all that's a big consideration when you are talking about human well-being, you would need quite a bit more I would imagine. I *wish* more SF writers would understand biological facts like this as well as hard science. > feeling entirely TOO chatty today Nonsense woman Alison ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 09:31:55 +1100 From: Kathryn Andersen To: "Blake's 7 list" Subject: Re: [B7L] AT&T to buy Teleport... Message-ID: <19980110093155.48970@welkin.apana.org.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Fri, Jan 09, 1998 at 02:01:06PM -0500, Alex Dering wrote: > I was sitting at the dining room table reading the NY Times and the > headline: AT&T to buy Teleport for $11.4 Billion (or some such figure) > caught my eye. The first thing I thought was, of course, Oh Wow! They've > finally got matter transportation. And AT&T is going to own it. Blake's 7, > and insidious thing in my life. I was just re-reading the Doctor Who Missing Adventure "Cold Fusion", and there's a bit where the Doctor is explaining to Tegan about transport... "These days, on most worlds, people travel using transmats - matter transmitters that teleport -" "It's all right, Doctor, I've seen Blake's 7." (Cold Fusion, p140) So, does that make Lance Parkin a fan? (-8 Kathryn Andersen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Cally: We must help these people. Avon: Must we? Personally, I don't care if their whole planet turns into a mushroom. I shall stay because I don't like an unsolved mystery. (Blake's 7: Mission To Destinys [A7]) -- _--_|\ | Kathryn Andersen / \ | http://connexus.apana.org.au/~kat \_.--.*/ | #include "std/disclaimer.h" v | ------------| Melbourne -> Victoria -> Australia -> Southern Hemisphere Maranatha! | -> Earth -> Sol -> Milky Way Galaxy -> Universe ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 15:07:06 -0800 From: Tramila Farris To: "Blake's 7 list" Subject: [B7L] Intro Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19980109150706.006b3bb0@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi! I'm Tramila and I've been a long time B7 fan. (ie more than 5 years....a drop in the bucket for some of you others. ) Although I have already replied to one post, I plan to lurk for a while since I have no clue what are dead horses on this list. I'm glad to be here. Tramila Farris ambrov Zeor ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 16:30:00 -0800 From: "PATTI McCLELLAN" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] AT&T -- Teleport Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Disposition: inline I thought it was common knowledge that Avon bought out AT&T with the proceeds he got from selling out everyone else at Gauda Prime. Now, don't crucify me yet, I just got here. My name is Patti and I've been a B7 fan for about 5 years now. I was thinking though, that perhaps he didn't sell out EVERYONE else. Perhaps AT&T now stands for Avon, Tarrant & T______ (suggestions?) Anyway, I've been enjoying your posts for several days now, and couldn't resist this one. Everyone have a glorious weekend. Patti ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 01:25:18 +0100 (MET) From: gwr@easynet.co.uk (Gareth Randall) To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] AT&T to buy Teleport... Message-Id: <199801100025.BAA19925@samantha.lysator.liu.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> I was sitting at the dining room table reading the NY Times and the >> headline: AT&T to buy Teleport for $11.4 Billion (or some such figure) >> caught my eye. The TV company I work for, NBC Europe, gets American NBC programmes sent via satellite every day from the Washington International Teleport. I don't know if that's the same thing, but it's pretty cool to hear that programme X is "being teleported over this afternoon"! Gareth http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~gwr ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 19:49:56 -0800 From: Pat Patera To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Dorian Crew Message-ID: <34B6EFE4.434A@geocities.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit penny_kjelgaard@juno.com wrote: > Dorian and Carnell on the same ship??? > ///// Slash Alert! ///// Surely it's been done! Can anyone name the story and zine? Pat P -------------------------------- End of blakes7-d Digest V98 Issue #8 ************************************