From: blakes7-d-request@lysator.liu.se Subject: blakes7-d Digest V99 #170 X-Loop: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se X-Mailing-List: archive/volume99/170 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se Reply-To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain blakes7-d Digest Volume 99 : Issue 170 Today's Topics: Re: [B7L] hobbies Re: [B7L] Character Hobbies Re: OT: BACs (was Re: [B7L] Worst Openings) Re: [B7L] Character Hobbies [B7L] horizon guestbook Re: [B7L] horizon guestbook [B7L] Vila words [B7L] Together Again tapes Re: [B7L] the movie Re: [B7L] Character Hobbies Re: [B7L] Avon Re: [B7L] Vila words Re: [B7L] Avon Re: [B7L] Vila words Re: [B7L] Avon RE: [B7L] the movie Re: [B7L] the movie Re: [B7L] Character Hobbies [B7L] the plural of Travis Re: [B7L] the movie Re: [B7L] Character Hobbies Re: [B7L] Character Hobbies Re: [B7L] the plural of Travis [B7L] By the Sword Divided [B7L] Re: Blake [B7L] Those Ultra costumes... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 01:18:23 -0700 From: mistral@ptinet.net To: B7 List Subject: Re: [B7L] hobbies Message-ID: <3743C54E.DB5CFE0D@ptinet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Neil Faulkner wrote: > Many people were seen playing board games of various kinds. Check out the > entry for GAMES in the Sevencyclopaedia. Belkov, of course, had turned > games-playing into a way of life. Both Gan and Servalan (as well as Cally) > were seen wearing some kind of visual entertainment device, and the Duty > Controller on Earth in The Way Back had some hot sounds to boogie on down > to. Yes, I hadn't forgotten about the games, it's one of the first things I noticed cropping up over and over; but it's not the sort of thing I meant as a hobby, simply for the reason that they all seem to be strategy games, and therefore could be justified as educational, intellectual pursuits. They might even be encouraged or required by the Federation educational system. Not really all that much like letting your hair down and relaxing; of course, that could be perspective; my family and friends tend to be the 'play to win' type -- but that appears to be the case with Avon, which implies that it might be at least partially true of the others, for them to continue to enjoy playing with him. Cally certainly seems to be using that video walkman for entertainment, but I often wonder if it doesn't have educational applications as well; Gan could be studying something with it; and that clunky bookreader has always annoyed me; it looks like it would make reading too much work to bother with; not something you could curl up and lose yourself in, really. Hmm... maybe Blake learned his history from playing Trivial Pursuit? That could explain the error about the smallpox blankets. Regards, Mistral -- "And for my next trick, I shall swallow my other foot."--Vila ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 08:18:20 EDT From: Mac4781@aol.com To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Character Hobbies Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mistral wrote: > What hobbies would you give to various characters? > Tarrant: Football, Let's hope he sticks to scrub matches. His skinny neck would snap the first time he was seriously tackled at competitive levels of the sport. (Or is that what you had in mind when you gave him this particular hobby? ;-) Tarrant's body suggests long-distance runner. His other hobbies include visiting museums (he indicates familiarity with museums in the series), zero-gravity hockey, bridge (by fourth season he has the entire crew participating in duplicate bridge games on the Galaxy Wide Web), and pinball machines. He's also a card-carrying member of the Federation Roller Coaster Club. Dayna introduced him to archery and he's managed not to kill any of his shipmates with stray arrows, but that's about all that can be said in regard to his current skill level. Tarrant also enjoys cross-dressing, a hobby shared by Avon and Vila. Discovered when the three of them showed up at the same ball wearing the same dress (all manufactured by Liberator's wardrobe room). Since then, they've enjoyed numerous sojourns together. Though Avon and Tarrant are continually miffed when Vila consistently bests them in Miss Transvestite competitions. Of course none of them hold a candle to the all time Drag Queen champion: Travis 2. Carol Mc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 06:14:23 -0700 From: mistral@ptinet.net To: B7 List Subject: Re: OT: BACs (was Re: [B7L] Worst Openings) Message-ID: <37440AAF.C4535E59@ptinet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Stephen Date wrote: > Gail wrote: > > >By the way, what kind of Christian would Blake be? I suspect he > >would be one of those obnoxious "I-won't-take-no-for-an-answer" > >missionaries that so many are complaining about. After all, that's > >what he does with the fight against the Federation. > > I think that's slightly unfair to Blake. Blake is ruthless, > determined and very, very bossy but then he is fighting a facist > dictatorship. I think it's *more* than fair to Blake. I've yet to see a Christian missionary of *any* ilk bomb the country's infrastructure (Star One) or break into someone's home and destroy their posessions (Bounty) in order to get them to convert. Blake's behaviour, whether you approve of his motivations or not, seems a lot more like bombing abortion clinics (*not* IMO okay) than it seems like standing on street corners preaching, or going on cold calls door-to-door (annoying, but doesn't hurt anybody, and isn't illegal.) Personally, I think Gail's gotten it right. Blake goes to great lengths to fight for people's freedom (only lasts until you die); imagine the lengths he might go to if he believed he were fighting to save their eternal souls (you might wish he'd go away and send some of those *regular* BACs 'round instead .) Not meaning to Blake-bash, BTW. I like Blake's sense of humor, his passion, his willingness to look for the good in people, his leadership ability, among other things. I just think Blake would be as committed to a religion he believed in as he is to freedom; in fact, I think freedom *is* his de facto religion. Cheers, Mistral -- "And for my next trick, I shall swallow my other foot."--Vila ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 06:34:47 -0700 From: mistral@ptinet.net To: B7 List Subject: Re: [B7L] Character Hobbies Message-ID: <37440F76.DBFC4590@ptinet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Carol wrote: > Mistral wrote: > > > What hobbies would you give to various characters? > > > Tarrant: Football, > > Let's hope he sticks to scrub matches. His skinny neck would snap the first > time he was seriously tackled at competitive levels of the sport. (Or is > that what you had in mind when you gave him this particular hobby? ;-) Actually, I meant what we in the US call soccer, not American football. Lots of running around and bouncing the ball on your knees, etc; I'm sure he's agile enough to avoid most collisions. I'd think your zero-gee hockey at least as dangerous. Love your post, especially: > He's also a card-carrying member of the Federation Roller Coaster > Club. Perfect for a flyboy. However, > Tarrant also enjoys cross-dressing, a hobby shared by Avon and Vila. > Discovered when the three of them showed up at the same ball wearing the same > dress I hope you mean wearing three different copies of the same dress? And yes, Tarrant's certainly pretty enough for a drag queen, but I can't really see Avon and Vila enjoying it; they might enjoy seeing Tarrant do it, though. Grins, Mistral -- "And for my next trick, I shall swallow my other foot."--Vila ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 06:53:25 PDT From: "David Davis" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] horizon guestbook Message-ID: <19990520135325.90010.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; I was just wondering if anyone on this list had any comment to offer on www.horizon.org.uk's decision to remove first its "movie comments" guestbook, and finally the guestbook for the whole site? Personally, I tend to think they failed to understand what a different medium the Internet is from a printed magazine, and the different editorial skills required. It is strange how some fans of a program dealing with individuality versus totalitarian regimes are so prescriptive in what they allow to be said in public. DAVE *** your very own Foucaultian pop star online *** ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 15:06:18 GMT From: "Sheryl Bamford" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] horizon guestbook Message-ID: <19990520150618.72956.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Dave Davis wrote: >I was just wondering if anyone on this list had any comment to offer > on >www.horizon.org.uk's decision to remove first its "movie >comments" guestbook, and finally the guestbook for the whole site? Oh for crying out loud, Dave, give it a rest. >Personally, I tend to think they failed to understand what a >different medium the Internet is from a printed magazine, and the >different editorial skills required. It is strange how some fans of >a program dealing with individuality versus totalitarian regimes are >so prescriptive in what they allow to be said in public. Maybe that's so, but perhaps withdrawing from a forum in which people like you were insistent on basically just stirring it was a good idea seeing as they couldn't seem to handle it well enough. I don't necessarily agree with Horizon's censorship, but you were being (and are continuing to be by bringing this to this list) bloody minded about it, so good on them for having the balls to do it I say. I'm sure I'm not the only one who was getting sick of the crap you were posting on their site. SB ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 09:14:27 -0700 From: mistral@ptinet.net To: B7 List Subject: [B7L] Vila words Message-ID: <374434E3.F20103DD@ptinet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Let's have five words for Vila's good qualities, too. My submission: Loyal, resilient, playful, clever, open. ============================= Mistral -- "And for my next trick, I shall swallow my other foot."--Vila ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 09:26:46 +0100 (BST) From: Judith Proctor To: Lysator List Subject: [B7L] Together Again tapes Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII This is just a general reminder that Sheelagh Wells' tapes of cast interviews will be on sale at Mediawest. She's sent copies of all the tapes to Linda Knights, so you will be able to buy Solstice as well as the earlier tapes from Linda's agents at Mediawest. The first two tapes (Blake's Back and Liberatored) are now out of print and the only copies remaining are those in America, so if you want those ones, I'd grab them while you can. (I can get those two tapes for people in Europe, but I have to ship them back from America, so they cost more than the others) Reviews of all the tapes and copies of the cover photos (I think Liberatored is my favourite - Michael Keating gloating over a gagged Paul Darrow and Gareth Thomas) can be found on my web site http://www.hermit.org/Blakes in the merchandise section. Judith -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 - Fanzines for Blake's 7, B7 Filk songs, pictures, news, Conventions past and present, Blake's 7 fan clubs, Gareth Thomas, etc. (also non-Blake's 7 zines at http://www.nas.com/~lknight) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 16:41:32 +0100 (BST) From: Judith Proctor To: Lysator List Subject: Re: [B7L] the movie Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Thu 20 May, Neil Faulkner wrote: > You could get some mileage out of the friction between the New Young Turks > and the Grey-haired Old Fogies (which Blake/Avon would be by this time). > Suppose there's been a technological revolution and the tarriel cell is a > museum piece. Blake and/or Avon are out of their depth. Then circumstances > send the new crew to some backward planet where the old technology still > rules. Suddenly the old guard are the ones with the know-how. Now that I like, though it would make Orac obsolete most of the time. But then Orac, as concieved, was overpowerful in any case. Realistically, technology might well have advanced beyond Orac in 20 years. > > >A plot that has some insight into the political workings of the Federation - > >I want wheeling, dealing, manipulating and conflict on more than one level > >and a movie has a better chance of developing that than a single episode > >does. > > Assuming that any new movie would be set 20 years on from the series, I > would like to see a New Democratic Federation crumbling under the weight of > its own corruption. Behind the scenes, of course, nothing's really changed, > and the same breed of scum are running the show. Besides, a New Federation > is a good excuse for a total design revamp. Makes sense. They're bound to redesign everything from uniforms to logos, so having a rationale for that does make sense. Either a corrupt democracy or one that has fallen to totalitarianism. > >No romance - at least, not for Avon. I'd like to see Vila find a long-term > >love though. > > Guess it says something about me that I'd never even thought about this > angle:) Movies tend to get hung up on having aromance somewhere. I'd hate Avon to have a brief fling with anyone and Vila actually strikes me as the crew member most likely to want to settle down. There's a comfortable feeling about Vila, like old, well-worn slippers. > > >Old characters - Avon and Vila, and possibly Servalan (but played straight > >rather than camp. Well, all right, a little camp, but I want her played as > >intelligent, competent and able to command enough loyalty among her > >followers to make her believeable as a leader) > > Avon definitely, Vila probably, Blake if he can be sensibly worked into it, > Servalan likewise. But I would want either Cally or Jenna in there too. Or a clone of Cally. There's nothing to say that Zelda was her only clone, nor no reason why she wasn't in the gene stock Franton took. > > Julie Horner added: > >- the same theme tune, not messed about with in any way, > > Here I disagree totally. Scrap the lame old series theme and bring in a > pulsing techno soundtrack. And definitely no epic Horneresque orchestral > pieces. I never cared much for the theme musi, but then if music isn't folk I largely ignore it in any case. > >- judicious use of flash backs, > > Except that they would probably clash visually with the style of the movie > and show the series up for the woefully under-budgeted hash job that it was. > And new viewers wouldn't make much sense of them either. The only flash back that could be safely done is to Gauda prime and then it could be shown as though it appeared on a scurity camera. That would allow a recap for anyone needing to know the back story and account for the poor picture quality. > My own additions to the list: > - more obvious weapon lethality. And a bit of blood and guts where called > for. I don't mean gratuitous violence, just make it clear that when people > get shot they are indeed getting shot. It was all rather bloodless. I'd like to see the crew get hit once in a while. On the rare occasions they did get injured, it always seemed to heal without ill effect in around five miniutes. > - sensible costume/set design. Don't let Nicky Rocker anywhere near the > production. Disagree strongly. I loved the flambouyant costumes. A real hallmark of the series. (Though I think I preferred Barbara Lane's stuff overall) > - at least some of the story set in an urban locale. Let's see what cities > are like, since most people will probably be living in them. Wonderful idea. Terrible for the budget . > - recognisable continuity with the series (someone else cited this, I know - > but I'm seconding it). No outright contradiction of the aired canon - add > to it, extrapolate from it, by all means, but don't contradict it. Abso-fragging-loutely. Be bold, add new strokes, but don't contradict the past. > - a sense of the outlandish and bizarre but without getting silly (much as > Gambit managed to pull off). Hard to do well, though it would be nice. > - a wry and cynical comment on the sorry state of the world as we enter the > new millennium. AS long as it doesn't mention the word 'millenium' in any context. I never forgave the Dr Who movie for that. It makes thing date terribly. > - lots of penguins. Budgerigars. Judth -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 - Fanzines for Blake's 7, B7 Filk songs, pictures, news, Conventions past and present, Blake's 7 fan clubs, Gareth Thomas, etc. (also non-Blake's 7 zines at http://www.nas.com/~lknight) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 22:41:09 +1000 From: Katling To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Character Hobbies Message-ID: <374402E5.2EE5649C@primus.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Tarrant also enjoys cross-dressing, a hobby shared by Avon and Vila. What about certain others? Carnell would look just lovely in a dress, I'm certain. Must be why he didn't oblige our Lady. Katrina - back on the list at last and wishing she'd never been force to leave. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 12:01:31 -0600 From: "Jenni-Alison" (by way of Penny Dreadful ) To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Avon Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990520120131.008e88e0@mail.geocities.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Penny wrote: > Supercilious, self-absorbed, short-tempered, savage, slick. > > No wait, maybe that's Blake. > Oooh, I like the S's hmm, Avon, let's see. How about Sarcastic, subtle, suspicious, superb survivor? Jenni ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 12:13:04 -0600 From: Penny Dreadful To: B7 List Subject: Re: [B7L] Vila words Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990520121304.00936ac0@mail.geocities.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:14 AM 5/20/99 -0700, mistral@ptinet.net wrote: >Let's have five words for Vila's good qualities, too. Avaricious, lustful, slothful...um...quit asking me these questions! I swear, I'm *not* a replicant! --"Penny" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 20:12:50 +0100 From: "Alison Page" To: "lysator" Subject: Re: [B7L] Avon Message-ID: <004801bea2f4$f49862e0$ca8edec2@pre-installedco> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Describe Avon in five words - 'Just a bit too clever' Alison ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 20:08:35 +0100 From: "Jennifer Beavan" To: "B7 List" Subject: Re: [B7L] Vila words Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ---------- > To: B7 List > Subject: [B7L] Vila words > Date: 20 May 1999 17:14 > > Let's have five words for Vila's good qualities, too. > My submission: > > Loyal, resilient, playful, clever, open. > > > ============================= > Mistral > -- > "And for my next trick, I shall swallow my other foot."--Vila > > Vile, vacuous, vicious, vindictive, villain (what do you mean, you haven't seen my version of the programme?) Jennifer ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 20:11:30 +0100 From: "Jennifer Beavan" To: "B7 List" Subject: Re: [B7L] Avon Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Avon - dark, devilish, desirable, dangerous, doomed. Jennifer ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 22:43:35 +0200 From: Jacqueline Thijsen To: B7 List Subject: RE: [B7L] the movie Message-ID: <39DCDDFD014ED21185C300104BB3F99F10FBD9@NL-ARN-MAIL01> Content-Type: text/plain Mistral wrote: > Jacqueline Thijsen wrote: > > > Mistral wrote: > > > > > Avon finally kills Servalan; if we view this as an AU, the > > > Servalan fen should be able to handle it. > > > > > Grrrrr, watch it, girl, Servalan rules in any universe, alternate or not > > :-). > > Oh, dear, there goes my cabinet post. > > Surely, Jacqueline, you could view this as simply clearing > the way for the *next* Evil Overlord to come along? > Hmmm, if you put it that way..... But how will I combine this with being in charge of the inquisition of the new church of Iain? I mean, that's more of a vocation than a job, so I can't just give it up, can I. Jacqueline ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 22:19:29 +0100 From: "Kevin Mahoney" To: "Lysator List" Subject: Re: [B7L] the movie Message-ID: <002401bea306$73dc47e0$265495c1@MSNKevinPatrickMahoney> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Judith Proctor wrote: >Makes sense. They're bound to redesign everything from uniforms to logos, so >having a rationale for that does make sense. Either a corrupt democracy or one >that has fallen to totalitarianism. I don't think the Federation would change uniform design too much, no matter how much trouble it's in (especially as it's a symbol of terror). I believe the basic concepts of the Roman empire lasted for centuries, with very little change in army uniform or tremendous advances in technology. So, although the Federation may have started out as technologically progessive, as the dictatorship set in, this progress may well have stagnated. Orac might still be ahead of the class after 20 years. Kevin Mahoney http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Nook/1082 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 15:52:14 -0700 (PDT) From: J MacQueen To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Character Hobbies Message-ID: <19990520225214.7568.rocketmail@web901.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Mac4781@aol.com wrote: > > > Tarrant: Football, > Let's hope he sticks to scrub matches. His skinny > neck would snap the first time he was seriously >tackled at competitive levels of the sport. Maybe not if he was playing soccer. Maybe AFL (Aussie Rules) would suit him, as you get some tall, skinny men playing that game. I wouldn't pick him to play rugby, league or union - Blake's a more likely candidate for those. >(Or is that what you had in mind when you gave him >this particular hobby? ;-) Tsk, tsk, Carol. There's no need to become paranoid on his behalf. He can do that for himself when wondering whether Vila is sabotaging his clothing and makeup. Wouldn't finding glass slippers to fit that mob of Cinderellas be a pain in the neck (or other areas of the anatomy - chose your favourite)? Regards Joanne Weird: Electric railway station near Hunner Street, Sinny. Trines leave Weird for Naw Sinny, Slennets and the Naw Shaw... --Afferbeck Lauder, Let Stalk Strine. _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 00:06:40 +0100 From: Steve Rogerson To: Lysator Subject: [B7L] the plural of Travis Message-ID: <3744957F.4FB8843C@mcr1.poptel.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have mentioned before that there is this young barman at my local called Travis. I was chatting with him this evening about his namesake and asking his view on the plural of his name, as in Brian Croucher was one of the two..... Travises, Travii etc. He, and it is his name after all, was firmly in favour of Travises, though someone else in the pub suggested Travesties! -- cheers Steve Rogerson http://homepages.poptel.org.uk/steve.rogerson "What is it with you and holes?" Xena to Gabrielle, Paradise Found ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 16:08:58 -0700 (PDT) From: J MacQueen To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] the movie Message-ID: <19990520230858.17928.rocketmail@web906.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Judith Proctor wrote: > > - lots of penguins. > Budgerigars. Not if DM's writing it! Regards Joanne (thankyou, Alison, for saving us from alliteration overload) _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 20:24:14 EDT From: Mac4781@aol.com To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Character Hobbies Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Katrina wrote: > What about certain others? Carnell would look just lovely in a dress, > I'm certain. Must be why he didn't oblige our Lady. Maybe that's how Carnell hid from Servalan; he became a "woman." Longer hair, a perm, a few accessories and he might have been the blonde bombshell in "Gold." ;) Joanne wrote: > Maybe not if he was playing soccer. Maybe AFL (Aussie > Rules) would suit him, as you get some tall, skinny > men playing that game. Tarrant should be able to manage soccer. (I was interpreting "football" in Yankee language.) Though the best soccer players I've seen are considerably shorter than Toothy. Gangly bodies don't seem to have the potential for quickness that is an advantage in the sport (at least in the games I've watched; maybe Aussie rules are more suited to tall bodies). You know who probably played soccer? Bayban. One header too many and that's the result. ;) > I wouldn't pick him to play > rugby, league or union - Blake's a more likely > candidate for those. I'm not familiar with rugby, but it brings to mind an image of solid bodies impacting with great force. Definitely best to leave that to Blake. A pilot in a full body cast would be at a distinct disadvantage. > Tsk, tsk, Carol. There's no need to become > paranoid on his behalf. He can do that for himself > when wondering whether Vila is sabotaging his clothing > and makeup. So that's why Vila wins all the contests! I should have suspected as much. > Wouldn't finding glass slippers to fit that mob > of Cinderellas be a pain in the neck (or other areas > of the anatomy - chose your favourite)? Better make them glass boats if they are going to fit Tarrant's feet. :) Carol Mc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 18:08:07 -0700 (PDT) From: J MacQueen To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Character Hobbies Message-ID: <19990521010807.29493.rocketmail@web903.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Mac4781@aol.com wrote: > Maybe that's how Carnell hid from Servalan; he > became a "woman." Longer hair, a perm, a few >accessories and he might have been the blonde >bombshell in "Gold." ;) Makes Avon's interest, erm, "interesting", doesn't it? > Gangly bodies don't seem to have the potential for > quickness that is an advantage in the sport (at > least in the games I've watched; maybe Aussie rules >are more suited to tall bodies). Well, I have heard AFL developed as a winter sport for cricket players - if the Godmother can imagine her boy playing cricket, then she may be able to imagine him playing Aussie Rules. Better still, from the point of view of the Tarrant Nostra - the local branch of that institution should tell Carol about the shorts (although, Heaven help Tarrant if they were the 1980s Warwick Capper variety!). > You know who probably played soccer? Bayban. >One header too many and that's the result. ;) May I suggest Bayban the Boxer. Just one small step away from Bayban the Butcher. Maybe his mother trained him. Regards Joanne (right, back to work!) _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 21:11:43 -0500 From: "Lorna B." To: Subject: Re: [B7L] the plural of Travis Message-Id: <199905210205.VAA11532@pemberton.magnolia.net> >I have mentioned before that there is this young barman at my local >called Travis. I was chatting with him this evening about his namesake >and asking his view on the plural of his name, as in Brian Croucher was >one of the two..... Travises, Travii etc. He, and it is his name after >all, was firmly in favour of Travises, though someone else in the pub >suggested Travesties! Travestites. Lorna B. "Cookies and porn? You're the best mom ever!" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 22:02:39 +0100 (BST) From: Judith Proctor To: Lysator List Subject: [B7L] By the Sword Divided Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Mon 12 Apr, Stephen Date wrote: > Incidentally, in the mid-eighties the Beeb did an English Civil War > series called "By the Sword Divided" in which Gareth Thomas played a > ruthless Cromwellian Major-General. I will always remember the bit > when a wounded Royalist lying on the ground in front of him smiled > engagingly and said "You have me at your mercy sir". Whereupon GT > pulled out a gun and shot him. Judith gibbers quietly in a corner... Does anyone anywhere have a copy of this? It's one of the few things Gareth has done that I have never seen and I really really want to see it. PAL or NTSC would do. I'll pay cost of tape or trade other things that Paul and Gareth have appeared in. Judith -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 - Fanzines for Blake's 7, B7 Filk songs, pictures, news, Conventions past and present, Blake's 7 fan clubs, Gareth Thomas, etc. (also non-Blake's 7 zines at http://www.nas.com/~lknight) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 22:05:40 +0100 (BST) From: Judith Proctor To: Lysator List Subject: [B7L] Re: Blake Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Oops. Sent this to Una by mistake. > > On Wed 19 May, Una McCormack wrote: > > > > > > Sondra Sweigman wrote: > > > > > > > Now, would anyone like to try Blake? I'll go first: Altruistic, > > > > courageous, compassionate, single-minded and shrewd. > > > > > > Physical, manipulative, visionary, self-deluding, tragic. > > > > steadfast, idealistic, obsessive, intelligent, tragic Judith -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 - Fanzines for Blake's 7, B7 Filk songs, pictures, news, Conventions past and present, Blake's 7 fan clubs, Gareth Thomas, etc. (also non-Blake's 7 zines at http://www.nas.com/~lknight) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 02:38:20 PDT From: "David Davis" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Those Ultra costumes... Message-ID: <19990521093820.96957.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; I was reading in "the inside story" about those Ultra costumes (you know, where they're designed to look like skin with big veins that blend seamlessly into the actors necks, but it's really just appalingly obvious that they're wearing blue bodysuits with their face and neck plastered with blue make-up, with veins drawn in...) I guess it was kinda gratifying to find out how embarrassed the production team were about it too... proof that everyone on that show was trying their darndest to make a quality programme. But I was left a bit confused in this case just what they were trying to do? Nicky the designer Gucci wellies designer apparently wanted to have plastic veins coming out of the costume and tapering into their skin, stuck on (presumeably so that there was no obvious join, at the collar).... would seem to make sense, but then Sheelagh said they would just come off if the actors moved their necks... So what was the best way to have done it? Surely there must've been *some* way to have veiny-neck-continuity... I can't really see how make up could ever look convincingly like it was part of a costume (or conversely how a costume could look like it was skin) DAVE ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -------------------------------- End of blakes7-d Digest V99 Issue #170 **************************************