From: IMC@VAX2.UTULSA.EDU (I. Marc Carlson) Subject: Lammas and the Festivals Date: 16 Jul 1993 08:43:15 -0500 mabr@stud.uni-sb.de (Mathias W. Brandstetter) writes: >> Lughnasad is an old celtic feast, celebrating the marriage of the >> king with the goddess (lugh is only a hero of the goddess, even if >> he almostly is handled as a god). Lughnasad is the time of >> harvesting start, the first time that you recognize a change in the >> length of day, the middle of the celtic summer (1.5. - 1.11.). From: carli@narziss.sni.de (Carlin) Subject:Re: Feast of Lughnasa?? > This implies that the summer is six months long - does anyone know > if the Celts only recognised two sessions? What are the main Celtic > festivals? For those festivals which are calendar based, how are the > dates reckoned - >lunar month? This supports a longheld contention of mine that we can't even AGREE on the festivals. Well, the way I was raised, the festivals are Oct 31 (Samhain) Beginning of the New Year, Rememberance for the past year. Beginning of the dark part of winter. Dec 22 (Yule or Mid-Winter) "Dark of the Year". The Darkest day of the year, and encouraging the eventual triumph of the sun. Feb 2 (Imbolc) Celebration of the Lady of Wisdom. Also a Ritual of the Fires against the Coldest part of the year. March 22 (Vernal Equinox) End of Winter, and the beginning of Summer. Rebirth of the God of Spring. May 1 (May Day or Beltine) Celebration of the planting and fertility. Cleaning away the dreck of the Winter, and relighting the home fires. Celebration of the Goddess. June 21 (Midsummer) Longest day of the Year, and recognition of the eventual victory of the dark against the sun. Aug 1 (Lammas) Celebration of the Sun and the beginning of the harvest season. Sept 21 (Autumnal Equinox) End of Summer and the Beginning of Winter. End of the Harvest. Summer and Winter are not exactly the right words, as the meaning is more the "Season of the Sun's Ascendence" and the "Season of the Sun's Loss" I'm certain other people have other versions of the calendar Marc C. IMC@VAX2.UTULSA.EDU & LIB_IMC@VAX1.UTULSA.EDU From: tmurphy@sun490.fdu.edu (Tom Murphy) Date: 21 Jul 93 12:58:08 GMT It makes no sense that the first day of summer be the day that the days begin to get shorter. Here are the seasons the way the Celts saw them: Winter: Samhain (Oct. 31/Nov. 1) - Imbolc (Feb. 1) Spring: Imbolc (Feb. 1) - Beltane (May 1) Summer: Beltane - Lammas (Aug. 1) Fall: Lammas - Samhain Basically, Winter were the dark snowy months. Spring starts with the lambing season. Summer after the planting, when the days are noticeably longer, and autumn with the harvest. Granted, the above schedule is a bit rigid, it does vary. (i.e. We had a blizzard here in Mid-march, winter was late in ending) How can winter "start" the day the sun is at its darkest? Using Midsummer or Midwinter on the solstices makes much more sense. -Tom